So did you vote correctly?

mr magnolia · Post by **mr magnolia** » 05 May 2005, 22:43

well, did you?

Try this now and see if you really found your way through the maze of public disinformation to the party of your heart...

I find that I voted for my third choice party. ( I've since sent an email asking for all my postal votes to be discounted)

I blame it on being suddenly and shockingly unmasked in public while worrying about magnoliette no.2 throwing herself under a bus whilst on the way to cast my vote.

Epykat · Post by **Epykat** » 05 May 2005, 23:10

[quote="mr magnolia] I blame it on being suddenly and shockingly unmasked in public while worrying about magnoliette no.2 throwing herself under a bus whilst on the way to cast my vote.

[/quote]

I saw you......you pushed her........

teddygirl · Post by **teddygirl** » 05 May 2005, 23:13

..................and I second that

andydckent · Post by **andydckent** » 06 May 2005, 00:48

Yup!

DG · Post by DG » 06 May 2005, 07:49

I voted right according to this test. Even my views of the other parties were correctly scored

DG

Maria · Post by **Maria** » 06 May 2005, 08:24

Well, according to this my 'protest' vote wasn't a 'protest' vote at all, as it was for the Party whose policies I am most aligned with anyway.

bearcub · Post by **bearcub** » 06 May 2005, 08:40

DG wrote:I voted right according to this test. Even my views of the other parties were correctly scored

DG

Me too. I had 2 parties just about equal but miles in front of any other....and I'd voted for 1 yesterday and the others at the last Scottish election

Ed · Post by Ed » 06 May 2005, 10:38

I took young Jack in with me (6 months old), held up the paper and put a cross in the box where he pointed. I didnt want to vote for any of them

Beach Babe · Post by **Beach Babe** » 06 May 2005, 12:08

I did this a while ago and two parties were pretty much equal for me according to the test. One I had predicted but the other was the Green party which was a slight surprise to me. But I did my protest vote anyway and, like Marya, it wasn't really a protest after all lol

Pal of Porty · Post by **Pal of Porty** » 06 May 2005, 13:16

I saw this site a week or so ago and I came out a strong Green with Lib Dem not too far behind. Didn't vote for either of them tho!

Robin! · Post by **Robin!** » 06 May 2005, 14:50

I should have voted SSP rather than SNP!

DG · Post by DG » 06 May 2005, 14:54

Well, Robin - I'm glad you did this test after voting

DG

CatzVP · Post by **CatzVP** » 06 May 2005, 16:22

Strange...I got SSP too....

Could be a conspiracy going on here

Not that it matters, I couldnt vote!

ecm · Post by **ecm** » 06 May 2005, 16:59

CatzVP wrote:Strange...I got SSP too....

and me

Gemini · Post by **Gemini** » 06 May 2005, 17:19

( I've since sent an email asking for all my postal votes to be discounted)

I am happy to announce that I voted for the right party

Poppy · Post by **Poppy** » 06 May 2005, 17:20

ecm wrote:
CatzVP wrote:Strange...I got SSP too....

and me

and I was SNP closely followed by SSP!!

and double

!!

GG · Post by GG » 06 May 2005, 20:40

I voted for the right party acording to this - SNP!

Robin! · Post by **Robin!** » 06 May 2005, 20:47

DG wrote:Well, Robin - I'm glad you did this test after voting

DG

lol, dont worry I wouldn't base my vote on a website.... tho it did make me think.

Bob Jefferson · Post by **Bob Jefferson** » 06 May 2005, 21:02

As an adminstrator, I suppose I should keep my politics under wraps, but I don't mind admitting that I voted, as I did last time, for SSP, although apparently I should have voted LibDem.

I'm not surprised that this questionnaire shows that many other people should have voted SSP if they had considered each issue on its merits. I think what this demonstrates is simply that SSP policies are actually much more mainstream than most people realise. Re-nationalisation, a fairer distribution of wealth, the kind of things that the Labour Party used to stand for.

For me personally, the answer is a synthesis of the SSP and the Green Party, with perhaps a few disaffected Labour and LibDems thrown in for good measure.

CatzVP · Post by **CatzVP** » 07 May 2005, 05:50

Poppy wrote:
ecm wrote:
CatzVP wrote:Strange...I got SSP too....

and me
and I was SNP closely followed by SSP!! and double !!

Wow we all got pretty much the same answers then... if only I could think of something that links us together in some way....

Hmmmm, what have Poppy, Ecm and Catzvp got in common....

Answers on a postcard!

Gemini · Post by **Gemini** » 07 May 2005, 08:49

An interesting link to the EU website regarding improprieties in the EU Budget.

http://www.heatonharris.org.uk/martabriefing.html

Chris Heaton MEP has an interesting e-mail address cheaton@eu parly

MrSpoon · Post by **MrSpoon** » 07 May 2005, 11:00

Bob Jefferson wrote:As an adminstrator, I suppose I should keep my politics under wraps, but I don't mind admitting that I voted, as I did last time, for SSP, although apparently I should have voted LibDem.

I'm not surprised that this questionnaire shows that many other people should have voted SSP if they had considered each issue on its merits. I think what this demonstrates is simply that SSP policies are actually much more mainstream than most people realise. Re-nationalisation, a fairer distribution of wealth, the kind of things that the Labour Party used to stand for.

For me personally, the answer is a synthesis of the SSP and the Green Party, with perhaps a few disaffected Labour and LibDems thrown in for good measure.

I wonder if this is a shift we'll see happen eventually - the formation and popularity of the labour party was from those who were being unfairly represented by government.. now that they've floated into a middle-class popularity area is there need for a new idealogical working class party?

Having said that, it's my experience that most SSP voters are quite comfortable when it comes to finance/living standards etc, and many of those that would aim to benefit from SSP reform don't bother voting for them. Maybe that's an unfair observation?

MrSpoon · Post by **MrSpoon** » 07 May 2005, 11:10

I should have pointed out - I do agree with most of what the SSP say in principle, and I think if they could pull it off we'd all be much happier. However, I don't think they get favourable press based on the way some of their supporters have been shown to go about making their point.. can end up looking like a bunch of thugs just trying to cause a bit of bother.

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 07 May 2005, 11:11

MrSpoon

Your analysis is not unfair at all - it's mostly true. Don't forget that the main bulk of the SSP leadership are former Militant members - who used to be in the Labour Party. I wouldn't discount a future where they go back in en masse.

Tony Benn said he was glad that New Labour had their victory because he was still working for an Old Labour victory!

Leftists have been squabbling for decades over the route to socialism, but whether it's parliamentary or not, it requires overwhelming support from the people that socialists seek to emancipate. And they blatantly didnae vote SSP on Thursday!!

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 07 May 2005, 11:15

MrSpoon wrote:I should have pointed out - I do agree with most of what the SSP say in principle, and I think if they could pull it off we'd all be much happier. However, I don't think they get favourable press based on the way some of their supporters have been shown to go about making their point.. can end up looking like a bunch of thugs just trying to cause a bit of bother.

It is our right to protest, and it's a proud tradition. But violence get nobody anywhere - contrast the ANC when they planted bombs and the much nicer version.

But if you think Sheridan et al look like thugs when they protest against Trident or our government's penchant for locking up people with dark skin, well call me Mr Thug.

MrSpoon · Post by **MrSpoon** » 07 May 2005, 11:21

Dadaist wrote:
MrSpoon wrote:I should have pointed out - I do agree with most of what the SSP say in principle, and I think if they could pull it off we'd all be much happier. However, I don't think they get favourable press based on the way some of their supporters have been shown to go about making their point.. can end up looking like a bunch of thugs just trying to cause a bit of bother.
It is our right to protest, and it's a proud tradition. But violence get nobody anywhere - contrast the ANC when they planted bombs and the much nicer version.

But if you think Sheridan et al look like thugs when they protest against Trident or our government's penchant for locking up people with dark skin, well call me Mr Thug.

I wasn't trying to deny your right of protest, nor say what you're doing is wrong - just that the media would much rather potray you as trouble makers rather than level-headed political activists, and I don't think it does the ideals any favours.

I think back to the people who dressed up as a submarine and went on a protest on Princess Street not long ago; over a very important point, but the papers turned it into a laughing stock. The Metro had days worth of letters having a chuckle at it.

So, my point, if (as it sadly appears) protest does not lead to a favourable presentation of the SSP, should they continue anyway? Can they beat the press, or will it simply hurt SSP support?

Sandra · Post by **Sandra** » 07 May 2005, 12:06

I also got SSP closely followed Greens

Gemini · Post by **Gemini** » 07 May 2005, 12:09

Bob Jefferson wrote:
As an adminstrator, I suppose I should keep my politics under wraps, but I don't mind admitting that I voted, as I did last time, for SSP, although apparently I should have voted LibDem.

I'm not surprised that this questionnaire shows that many other people should have voted SSP if they had considered each issue on its merits. I think what this demonstrates is simply that SSP policies are actually much more mainstream than most people realise. Re-nationalisation, a fairer distribution of wealth, the kind of things that the Labour Party used to stand for.

For me personally, the answer is a synthesis of the SSP and the Green Party, with perhaps a few disaffected Labour and LibDems thrown in for good measure.

Get the feeling that this could be a porky? Had you down for NL. Hope I am proved wrong.

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 07 May 2005, 12:48

MrSpoon

If your goal is to keep the press happy and become a slick, oiled media machine with lots of hype and spin doctors, then you become, um, New Labour.

The media aim a ton of spite at us for a reason. Have you heard of Rupert Murdoch? If I was one of his tabloid newspaper editors and I read a bit of copy which *didn't* portray activists as troublemakers I would sack the writer for not doing his/her job properly.

If you can think of a way to get the press on our side but not ditch our principles, please comment constructively. If your only criticism is that what the SSP/Respect do doesn't conform to the rest of the bland corporate media platter you are used to, I suggest you join the back of the queue of Neo-Labour critics.

MrSpoon · Post by **MrSpoon** » 07 May 2005, 12:59

All I wondered was if you can't beat the media, is there a better way to use SSP energy and activity to create a message, without being made to look silly in the newspapers? I certainly don't think what the media does is good, but if you can't beat them, is it wise to keep confronting them?

This is merely a mental excercise, I certainly don't intend to appear to be in conflict with ssp activity.

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 07 May 2005, 14:15

MrSpoon wrote:All I wondered was if you can't beat the media, is there a better way to use SSP energy and activity to create a message, without being made to look silly in the newspapers? I certainly don't think what the media does is good, but if you can't beat them, is it wise to keep confronting them?

This is merely a mental excercise, I certainly don't intend to appear to be in conflict with ssp activity.

No worries - you've merely voiced what is a common topic for internal debate in the SSP. It's not all doom and gloom in the newspapers though - for example, the Mirror was determinedly against the war until Piers Moron got sacked (remember the fake abuse photos?) and Tommy had a column in the Record.

When newspapers do listen is when they have to, and realise that if they don't cover something a certain way they will lose readers - and they do stuff things up, like the Sun did after Hillsborough.

But in general you are correct - you have posed exactly the right question. Some feel that the thing to do is produce your own newspaper, and in fact there are leftist organisations who pretty much consist of a newspaper and nothing else! Unlike big business and people already in power, who only have to defend what they have, the main battle has to be fought by the left themselves without any help. There is no quick answer to your question, and it's an important one in this media age.

bellybabe · Post by **bellybabe** » 11 May 2005, 09:37

I can't believe that this test just told me I should have voted SNP. They would be...er....last on my list. Even after Death, Dungeons and Taxes. I thought my answers were much more SSP.

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